9 thoughts on “SW 4th Avenue, 1931

  1. Elliot, my guess is that it’s just due to the expansion of the city & lining up the streets into a cohesive pattern.

  2. Elliott, you can blame it on individual developers, each of whom had his own ideas as to how long a block should be and how wide a street should be. They planned their own bit of property without regard for where the adjoining streets were.

  3. @ carter K:

    This is what I sort of assumed. I’ve heard from a PBOT planner that the offset of SE Division at 42nd was due to a “surveying error.”

  4. I bicycle through this intersection often, and I notice that some of the concrete sections are fairly old. The catch basin in photo still there. Do you suppose pieces of these guys work still exists?

  5. @Mike G: Due to the high quality of both the work and concrete, it would not surprise me at all if some of this work from over 80 years ago still exists. Several year sago I had to break up some old concrete using a jack hammer. The concrete was so dense, I didn’t think I was ever going to break through.

  6. The notion that there are errors in the surveys which led to these offsets is far from true. When plats were recorded, the streets on each side were either adjoining an existing plat or were new streets with no matches on certain sides. When platting, a developer had the option of placing a half street, full street or no street on the edges of his plat depending upon the improvements in place and the desires of the developer. This sort of platting will result in offsets of 0, 25, 30, 50 or 60 feet from one plat to the next.

    If you want to find survey errors, start in downtown. Many of the buildings in Old Town/Skidmore and the Yamhill districts are partially in the right of way on one side of a block, and offset from the right of way on the opposite side.

    This from an old PDOT tech manager.

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